Monday, November 23, 2009

Reap What You Sow

A conversation from last month with a Python Cartel member that was removed from corp:


Channel ID: -3127383
Channel Name: Private Chat (Griznatle)
Listener: Spectre3353
Session started: 2009.10.02 05:15:48

[ 05:16:00 ] Griznatle > well ok...
[ 05:16:24 ] Griznatle > you busy, or you think you can talk to me
[ 05:16:28 ] Spectre3353 > hey
[ 05:16:29 ] Spectre3353 > whats up
[ 05:16:47 ] Griznatle > wanna explain a little whats going on man
[ 05:16:56 ] Griznatle > i was pretty sure we were getting along
[ 05:17:39 ] Griznatle > i had told you a couple times about my character sheet issue
[ 05:17:42 ] Spectre3353 > i got a few complaints of people that said they didnt want to fly with you
[ 05:17:46 ] Spectre3353 > and you piss your ships away
[ 05:18:00 ] Griznatle > what was the complaint?
[ 05:18:03 ] Spectre3353 > dont take it personal but if youre not fitting in with the corp then thats that
[ 05:18:14 ] Griznatle > i do take it personal
[ 05:18:15 ] Spectre3353 > you fc'ing gangs and getting everyone killed
[ 05:18:20 ] Spectre3353 > being obnoxious on vent
[ 05:18:30 ] Griznatle > ive never fced a gang in python man
[ 05:18:38 ] Griznatle > ive target called once
[ 05:18:47 ] Griznatle > or twice, i think
[ 05:18:51 ] Spectre3353 > i wasnt there
[ 05:18:56 ] Griznatle > i really loved being part of python
[ 05:19:08 ] Griznatle > i wish you would have talked to me saying that this shit was happening
[ 05:19:16 ] Griznatle > i would have really worked hard
[ 05:19:31 ] Griznatle > yeah the jew thing was stupid...i just got mad at the blobbers and emoraged
[ 05:19:44 ] Spectre3353 > that wasnt really the problem
[ 05:19:49 ] Griznatle > but i really love you guys
[ 05:20:03 ] Spectre3353 > well i dont want to tell you how to play
[ 05:20:09 ] Spectre3353 > if you want to suicide 5 ships a day thats perfectly fine
[ 05:20:11 ] Griznatle > please do
[ 05:20:15 ] Spectre3353 > but thats a bit beyond what i want us doing
[ 05:20:27 ] Griznatle > i know man...ive been having a hard past week
[ 05:20:41 ] Griznatle > i just started college and its difficult to fit in
[ 05:20:48 ] Griznatle > and i mean i love you guys, like brothers
[ 05:21:02 ] Griznatle > i guess what im saying is i really would have loved to work it out
[ 05:21:30 ] Griznatle > i can stop throwing ships away man, i really just miss being a part of the cool guys
[ 05:22:30 ] Griznatle > i know its not much to offer, im not that good a pvper
[ 05:22:39 ] Spectre3353 > none of us are that good, its not about that
[ 05:22:46 ] Griznatle > but im really trying to learn and its been so awesome and like a dream to fly with you guys
[ 05:23:02 ] Griznatle > id love a second chance...
[ 05:23:12 ] Spectre3353 > one moment
[ 05:24:08 ] Griznatle > i get carried away man, and i totally know that, no excuses, i dont have much to offer to the corp other than love for the craft
[ 05:24:57 ] Spectre3353 > every corp is different and i think you could probably find another where your playstyle fits in better
[ 05:25:06 ] Spectre3353 > there are tons of pirate corps and id be happy to put in a good word for you in any of them
[ 05:25:17 ] Griznatle > but i like being with you guys man
[ 05:25:26 ] Griznatle > i know a second chance is out of the question
[ 05:25:41 ] Griznatle > i just really wish i could prove to you that i could change
[ 05:25:58 ] Griznatle > and ill stop being the annoying kid on vent
[ 05:26:40 ] Griznatle > i just really loved being part of pythons
[ 05:26:44 ] Spectre3353 > i think you're taking it a little too hard
[ 05:26:56 ] Spectre3353 > we are a video game guild
[ 05:27:00 ] Spectre3353 > one of many
[ 05:27:04 ] Spectre3353 > you will find a place
[ 05:27:25 ] Griznatle > there isnt anyway i could try just one more time to not be stupid noob?
[ 05:27:57 ] Griznatle > i can really work on it man, i really can
[ 05:28:00 ] Spectre3353 > maybe sometime down the road but right now i think you should move on and find yourself a group who play the same way as you
[ 05:29:09 ] Griznatle > this sucks man, spec...i really wanted to become one of the guys
[ 05:32:11 ] Griznatle > i could be probitionary, no roles or anything, you can kick me out first sign of trouble, i just really wish i could prove myself
[ 05:33:08 ] Spectre3353 > sorry griz, ive said what im going to say for now
[ 05:33:18 ] Spectre3353 > good luck and let us know if theres anything i can do to help you with a new corp
[ 05:33:33 ] Spectre3353 > if you need to transport stuff safely out of station just let the guys know i said to let you go without engaging
[ 05:33:40 ] Spectre3353 > if anyone gives you trouble with that let me know
[ 05:33:41 ] Spectre3353 > o/

A few days after this, Griz put me on ignore and freaked out in local chat screaming at me. A little while after that, Griz posted a post out of nowhere in the C&P forums apologizing sincerely for his actions. A little while after that, Griz once again freaked out in local at us. The reason I am sharing this? Simply to let other corporations know: Do not ever recruit Griznatle. He is a complete psycho and a spaz both in game and on Ventrilo. I can only imagine that he must be bipolar or schizophrenic and I hope that he gets help. Until he does, do not accept him to your corporation or risk having to deal with some psycho shit. You've been warned.


Dexter Tripod said...

Hmmm, that name sounds eerily familiar..the racist remarks too. I think he might have been in Monsters at one time. Pirates have enough problems with image without adding THAT to the mix.

Myrhial Arkenath said...

Have dealt with a similar situation in the past. You did the right thing by removing him. It may seem harsh to kick someone that clearly has problems in his life, but that is what specialized counselling is for.

Leon vanUber said...

Hehe, I knew he was a bit strange when reading some of his comments on battleclinic.
While it may be accepted practice to make fun of jew clich├ęs and to have a general rough tone in major alliances, its nice to see people not accepting this.
I don't need people calling everyone faggot and making constant fun of minorities or religious groups in my corp.

Fortunately I'm member of a corp where people are respected and smacktalk is not encouraged.

Spectre said...

Leon: Well to be totally fair, Python DOES encourage smacktalk. I think I am probably the worst offender in the entire corp. That being said, we do not condone or advocate asshattery. Asshattery is unacceptable and any member of my corp that is determined to be an asshat shall be removed post-haste.

Anonymous said...

lol u jews have no clue how to play eve.

Fiammata said...

okay, so some things we know about this

1. He has a /b bookmark/homepage
2. He brags he knows you spec
3. His mom babys him
4. He likes mel gibson movies
5. You handled it very well, and mature...for But he still thinks that he is cool with you, i will bet you anything he will threaten anyone with you coming after them when he gets ganked.
6. virgin
7. Wacks off to Disney channel
8. Finds MTV deep television.

It is sad tho that these kids are all along in game, maybe you should tell him how great being a Gnome rogue is, and he will switch to wow?

Griznatle said...

I dont feel like copypasting what I said earlier so I will get to the tl;dr. Spec, your presenting facts in a way to create a response from your readers. Using your blog to slander my name is very dishonorable and trying to ruin my gameplay is even lower. Your very close to pulling another Ken Plante, so I would tread carefully. This childish need to one up me, just like you did ken plante, is going way to far.

tl;dr or the tl;dr
its a game, your addicted to it. Its pixels. chill.

Anonymous said...

"its a game, your addicted to it. Its pixels. chill."

i actualy find that funny. you seem to be the one with issues that wont let go, aka ignoring and talking smack in local. if you really just wanted to let be you would move to a different system.

Oh and that Ken stuff was epic, who names their in game toon AFTER THEM SELVES!!! hello ????

He was ALSO very douchy, and desrved what he got, as will you.

f0st3r said...

"Your very close to pulling another Ken Plante, so I would tread carefully."

Sounds like a threat!

Griz, you are a immature kid! Simple as that, you have been kicked from AT LEAST the last 3 corps you were in because of being a immature, racist, asshat.

You bring the attention to yourself, so don't whine when you get it.

Anonymous said...

Karma in EvE??? Lets hope so! Tough desicion to make spec, but it turned out to be the right one.


Lars Lodar said...

/grabs space popcorn.

Griznatle said...

a. I am in a different system, they come to me.
b. Spec is attempting to destroy my name so that I cannot enjoy sitting down and playing some Eve with my corpmates and/or buddies.
c. Where did that number come from bfoster? If your going through my corp history I would love for you to point out specific instances where I was kicked from a corperation other than python cartel.
d. Its no threat, only a warning.

f0st3r said...

1) Kicked from EP Training School
2) Kicked from PC
3) Kicked from Heretics..(even though you deny it, yet admit it?)

Griznatle said...

A. Left from EPA, good job.
B. I left heretics too, ask my current ceo and mg/switch.
good luck.

f0st3r said...

So I looked for your big mouth in my local chat logs.. You were right.. You truly are supreme!

[ 2009.11.20 03:07:31 ] Griznatle > i got accepted to the new corp 13 seconds before they could kick me
[ 2009.11.20 03:07:35 ] Griznatle > they were logging in their ceo alt
[ 2009.11.20 03:07:39 ] Griznatle > i pissed mg off
[ 2009.11.20 03:07:55 ] Bfoster > you don't notice a trend?
[ 2009.11.20 03:08:15 ] Griznatle > no, i pissed him off when he pissed me off
[ 2009.11.20 03:08:26 ] Griznatle > he blamed me for heretics failing
[ 2009.11.20 03:08:27 ] Griznatle > for the killboard
[ 2009.11.20 03:08:38 ] Griznatle > even when i ran ops
[ 2009.11.20 03:08:41 ] Griznatle > and no one showed up
[ 2009.11.20 03:09:04 ] Griznatle > and foster....quite honestly...fuck you and your trend...when people start to be dicks about killdeath ratios and forget this is pixels
[ 2009.11.20 03:09:08 ] Griznatle > i leave

Lars Lodar said...

Chat logs are a funny thing. I need more popcorn.

Cozmik R5 said...

/me props feet on desk, cracks open beer and watches the fireworks :)

Josh (GH) said...

Oh my god, the hilarity. Share the space popcorn with me Larsypoo?

Mynxee said...

Soap opera script writers could learn a thing or two from corp drama in EVE Online.

You can't let corp morale suffer due to one incompatible person. Kick 'em and forget 'em, I say. Good job, Spec.

Wensley said...

Can't watch... but... must watch... NEED MORE DRAMA!

On a side note I think you handled the chat pretty well Spec, you big smack talking girl, you.

Teister said...'re amazingly nice when booting a fucktard from your corp.

I feel like recruiting this guy to BOZO for shits and giggles and see if we can get him to cut himself.

Kobra said...

ROFL... come on now Griz.
My alt was the ceo of the Eternal Perseverance flight school and I personally kicked you from the corp and told you to go join PC.

Jirikisunta said...

I've experienced more than a few folks like this. My "Crazy-as-batshit-and-f-ing-stoopid-too" radar has been fine tuned to an artform. Just trust your gut, and if you get a bad feeling about someone, you should just feel free to cut them loose. They will survive, and you'll be much happier.

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Omgah said...

Thanks for sending the nuts our way kobra.

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